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Post by soviet on Jan 12, 2006 21:47:24 GMT -5
"Boo."
/looksaround...
"Hammer & Sickle still flyin' baby. Still flyin"
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Post by china on Jan 12, 2006 21:53:50 GMT -5
lol
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Post by Canada on Jan 12, 2006 22:14:51 GMT -5
Well the problem with that is that if a nation acts hostiley toward another (Ex a post that would in real life merit war) their is nothing the nation being insulted can do just becasue its bigger. Howabout we do reality based but nations in the ranges you listed cannot attack new ones for a period that would allow them to alter their nation as they see fit increase military size and such. However Larger nations can attack a new nation if they take aggressive action before the "grace period" is up. this way we dont have a problem like some one large invading you unless you attack them first. Why dont we just use real population growths and such? not to much work then. Why not just stick with NS, then? It does all the work for you and everyone has the same opportunity to grow and become powerful. It is more realistic if we have gaps between populations. Obviously NS, and these RPs, use vastly accelerated time so one day may be equal to a year based on the changes that occur. As for the grace period, I'll admit I didn't think of that, but it is a good idea. But I'd like to state that most sane people won't make threats to a nation 100x it's size. It's just not good for the health of the nation, ya know?
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Post by Canada on Jan 12, 2006 22:20:17 GMT -5
"Boo." /looksaround... "Hammer & Sickle still flyin' baby. Still flyin" I was talking to North Korea, but yeah. Besides, it's China. How do you know WHICH Sickle and Hammer it is? ;D
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Post by nederland on Jan 13, 2006 9:12:26 GMT -5
Well, thankfully MCU doesn't run my nations or determine how I play, so he can bite me, I don't like his attitude. MCU's Reply: ( Insert typical logical I'm smarter than you comment ) Look at the name of this part of the forum, it's called suggestions. People can post their idea's here, and so I did. I never said I wanted to ''determine'' how you should play. I would be like 0% interseted in that. In what I am interested is that we make some good rules with which all people have a fair chance. And if you don't like my idea's and you can't come with counter arguments than just don't reply. Instead of making such inmuture comments. I just copy pasted your stats from NSeconomy so the should be correct. Maybe I posted them before the small update. I just the nations that were in the sign up section so i thought it was your nation. I know but.. We are just starting with this, so you could say history begins. Then we all beginers should have the same strenght to start with. And then your nation will grow through time. Then it would be more logical imo if we had an advantage on new nations because our nations have been through much more and so grown more. And you could just make a rule that says that all new players should make a puppet and sent it to the region. I don't state my idea is perfect, no it isn't. But I think the difference are now very large. But ok you have a point about that in the RL differences are large to. But is it fun? I think it should fun at all times. And you talk about large new nations. But what about small nations of 5 million people? They would be completly outpowered by the rest. And they can never come at the same number of people. I'm thankful that you agree wit me on this but we shouldn't do it right away. I posted it here so we can discuss this. And make a decision and then go or go not to one region with all new puppets. Or we should just have a sort of a UN. If a small nation is attacked by a large nation. Other large nation can start a counter attack against the lage agressor. I don't think we should put up to much rule about who you can attack and who not. Like in RL america attacking Iraq wasn't also not the same numbers and military power(if we now keep extremely close to RW).
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Post by Germany on Jan 13, 2006 15:37:06 GMT -5
Well that would put an end to my expansionism, but In all fairness, I agree.
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Post by España on Jan 13, 2006 15:41:10 GMT -5
Don't worry, I roleplay fairly, so my population will certainly not be used as an advantage [especially since I don't even field .2% of my population in my military].
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Post by The Soviet Union on Jan 13, 2006 16:03:52 GMT -5
The UN is a good Idea. Nederland makes a good point. smaller nations can never catch up. That is why I think we can use exact data from real time. With this their are no problems, no complaints and a UN to defend all of the weaker Nations. In your scenario, of China attacking me, The UN would come to my aid. Unless I did something like selling Nuclear weapons to known terrorits
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Post by Canada on Jan 13, 2006 18:42:13 GMT -5
With all this, though, I honestly don't understand what the problem is. If we have the UN, then the whole argumenet of bigger nations attacking much smaller ones is moot because the combined forces of the UN would blow away the aggressor. It's not like we can't have the UN anyways.
It would be alot simpler just to get all who wanted to RP to agree to certain 'fairplay' terms, and to drop starting over.
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Post by United Kingdom on Jan 14, 2006 0:36:07 GMT -5
I just resurrected my old nation Zossen. Check out the stats.
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Post by nederland on Jan 14, 2006 5:11:32 GMT -5
With all this, though, I honestly don't understand what the problem is. If we have the UN, then the whole argumenet of bigger nations attacking much smaller ones is moot because the combined forces of the UN would blow away the aggressor. It's not like we can't have the UN anyways. It would be alot simpler just to get all who wanted to RP to agree to certain 'fairplay' terms, and to drop starting over. The UN would be a solution indeed. But there wasn't any idea's about a UN when I posted this. I was just Highlighting a problem. I gave what could be a solution. The UN is an other and it seems to fit more people so I think we should go for that idea.
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Post by soviet on Jan 14, 2006 10:30:09 GMT -5
I really don'r care. I'm going to rp how I want. lol.
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Post by Germany on Jan 14, 2006 10:54:29 GMT -5
Me too! lol. I will take what I want, and realistically Rp based on my Military Capability from my NS nation.
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